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Let's start this thread with all the info we can find in Sun/Moon!

Not totally confirmed but apparently, according to a leaker, 803 is the final Dex number. So 82 new + Alolan Forms (We don't know if Ultra Beasts count on the Dex).

Things you need to know:

  1. Unavailable Pokemon have been stubbed out using pikachu's base stats, this means that it is unlikely that unreleased Pokemon will be found. Thanks to a loophole we have unlocked all the sprites.
  2. I will check every single source of Info I can and then add them to this list with spoiler tags so you can choose what you want to see.
  3. If you don't care about spoilers you can go follow the people I gave credit to at the bottom of this post.
  4. Only the starter split-evo poster is fake, chinese leak is real
For those of you that do not want spoilers I suggest two things:

  1. Stay as far away from this post as possible, or even better follow Joe's advice and Abandon The internet
  2. Wear This
Questions answered

Demo Alola Form

(unlocked in demo through game events)

Z-Moves

-According to GameXplain Z-moves are based on the move used. For instance, nuzzle will turn Gigavolt Havoc into a 100 Base Power Z-move and make it Physical

Game Mechanics

Status effects

Pokemon Moves

All other moves have been scrubbed and replaced with pound if they were not in the game

Item Sprites

Met Locations (this is just where you caught your Pokemon not actual game locations)

Mystery Zone | Faraway Place | Hau'oli City | Shopping District | Marina | Ten Carat Hill | the Kalos region

Abilities

Base Stats

(HP/ATK/DEF/SP ATK/SP DEF/SPD):

Misc Info

Soundtracks

Sprites - Non Shiny

What we know

New Stuff

Sprites - Shiny

Check the DATAMINE Video #3 for shiny sprites.

Possible Story Spoiler

Special thanks to SciresM, Kaphotics, OmegaDonut, Smogon people, Joe Merrick

DATAMINE Video #1

DATAMINE Video #2 (all Sprites, possible story spoiler)

DATAMINE Video #3 (all Shiny sprites)
source: reddit


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  • Love Lunala's Shiny form!
  • Tsareena's Shiny form is perfect for the team I'm planing
  • I like Salandit's evolution
  • Whimpod's evolution looks awesome but at the same time it seems like it needs a middle evolution...
What I don't like...
  • Marshadow!? WTF!!! That puny thing!?
  • Why does Persian look like Garfield's goth cousin...
  • Komala doesn't evolve!?
  • Why do Ultra Beast have shiny!? I'm actually hoping they're NOT catchable!!!
 

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  • I like Salandit's evolution
  • Whimpod's evolution looks awesome but at the same time it seems like it needs a middle evolution...
What I don't like...
  • Marshadow!? WTF!!! That puny thing!?
  • Why does Persian look like Garfield's goth cousin...
  • Komala doesn't evolve!?
  • Why do Ultra Beast have shiny!? I'm actually hoping they're NOT catchable!!!
That poor Persian...
But I'm happy that the UB can be caught :yesyes2: :sisi2: they are the new legendary Pokémon roftl
That poor Diglett and Dugtrio :cry2:
But I like Golem's new form :yesyes2: :sisi2: (mustached XD)
 

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That poor Persian...
But I'm happy that the UB can be caught :yesyes2: :sisi2: they are the new legendary Pokémon roftl
That poor Diglett and Dugtrio :cry2:
But I like Golem's new form :yesyes2: :sisi2: (mustached XD)
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This generation has a lot of mustached Pokémon XD
- Alolan Golem
- Drampa
- Alolan Rattata
roftlroftl
Mustache are the ultimate transformation!!! UNLIMITED POWER!!!
 

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This will be the full dex:
722 Rowlet
723 ^ Dartrix
724 ^ Owl3
725 Litten
726 ^ Torracat
727 ^ Tiger3
728 Popplio
729 ^ Brionne
730 ^ Seal3
731 Pikipek
732 ^ evo2
733 ^ evo3
734 Yungoos
735 ^ Gumshoos
736 Grubbin
737 ^ Charjabug
738 ^ Vikavolt
739 Crabrawler
740 ^ evo2
741 Oricorio
742 Cutiefly
743 ^ Ribombee
744 Rockruff
745 ^ Lycanroc
746 Wishiwashi
747 Sea Urchin
748 ^ evo2
749 Mudbray
750 ^ Mudsdale
751 Spider
752 ^ evo2
753 Fomantis
754 ^ Lurantis
755 Morelull
756 ^ evo2
757 Salandit
758 ^ evo2
759 Stufful
760 ^ Bewear
761 Bounsweet
762 ^ Steenee
763 ^ Tsareena
764 Comfey
765 Oranguru
766 Passimian
767 Wimpod
768 ^ evo2
769 Sandygast
770 ^ Palossand
771 Pyukumuku
772 Type:Null
773 ^ Silvally
774 Minior
775 Komala
776 Turtonator
777 Togedemaru
778 Mimikyu
779 Bruxish
780 Drampa
781 Anchor
782 Jangmo-o
783 ^ Hakamo-o
784 ^ Kommo-o
785 Tapu Koko
786 Tapu 2
787 Tapu 3
788 Tapu 4
789 Minigalaxy
790 ^ Evo2?
791 Solgaleo
792 Lunaala
793 UB-01
794 UB-02 Absorption
795 UB-02 Beauty
796 Ultra4
797 Ultra5
798 Ultra6
799 Ultra7
800 Ultra8
801 Magearna
802 Marshadow
 

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This will be the full dex:
722 Rowlet
723 ^ Dartrix
724 ^ Owl3
725 Litten
726 ^ Torracat
727 ^ Tiger3
728 Popplio
729 ^ Brionne
730 ^ Seal3
731 Pikipek
732 ^ evo2
733 ^ evo3
734 Yungoos
735 ^ Gumshoos
736 Grubbin
737 ^ Charjabug
738 ^ Vikavolt
739 Crabrawler
740 ^ evo2
741 Oricorio
742 Cutiefly
743 ^ Ribombee
744 Rockruff
745 ^ Lycanroc
746 Wishiwashi
747 Sea Urchin
748 ^ evo2
749 Mudbray
750 ^ Mudsdale
751 Spider
752 ^ evo2
753 Fomantis
754 ^ Lurantis
755 Morelull
756 ^ evo2
757 Salandit
758 ^ evo2
759 Stufful
760 ^ Bewear
761 Bounsweet
762 ^ Steenee
763 ^ Tsareena
764 Comfey
765 Oranguru
766 Passimian
767 Wimpod
768 ^ evo2
769 Sandygast
770 ^ Palossand
771 Pyukumuku
772 Type:Null
773 ^ Silvally
774 Minior
775 Komala
776 Turtonator
777 Togedemaru
778 Mimikyu
779 Bruxish
780 Drampa
781 Anchor
782 Jangmo-o
783 ^ Hakamo-o
784 ^ Kommo-o
785 Tapu Koko
786 Tapu 2
787 Tapu 3
788 Tapu 4
789 Minigalaxy
790 ^ Evo2?
791 Solgaleo
792 Lunaala
793 UB-01
794 UB-02 Absorption
795 UB-02 Beauty
796 Ultra4
797 Ultra5
798 Ultra6
799 Ultra7
800 Ultra8
801 Magearna
802 Marshadow
So that is everyone in Gen 7... Kind of disappointed... Especially with all the none evolving Pokémon!
 

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So that is everyone in Gen 7... Kind of disappointed... Especially with all the none evolving Pokémon!
Maybe 2-3 aren't revealed yet but we know most of them :yesyes: and... rumours says that the UBs are catchable :yesyes2: :sisi2:
 

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Maybe 2-3 aren't revealed yet but we know most of them :yesyes: and... rumours says that the UBs are catchable :yesyes2: :sisi2:
I guess we'll have to wait till trailer or November 18th
 

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What we expected and eventually got.
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I believe being able to stand up for what you passionately want against what you logically expect is another power of its own. I applause those who have fought for quadruped litten evolution to this moment for not losing hope for the reveal of a well designed Pokémon even when all the evidence was against us. ✊

Quadruped litten evolution will forever live in our hearts and fanart.

Are the starters' types confirmed?
I've been hearing they're
Grass Steel
Fire Dark
Water Fairy
 
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What we wanted
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What we expected and eventually got.
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I believe being able to stand up for what you passionately want against what you logically expect is another power of its own. I applause those who have fought for quadruped litten evolution to this moment for not losing hope for the reveal of a well designed Pokémon even when all the evidence was against us. ✊

Quadruped litten evolution will forever live in our hearts and fanart.
I only hope that he will be Fire/Dark. I only hope for that :cry:

Are the starters' types confirmed?
I've been hearing they're
Grass Steel
Fire Dark
Water Fairy
We only know the sprites... nothing more. But I know about rumour saying:
- Rowlett's final evo: Grass/Flying
- Litten's final evo: Fire/Dark
- Popplio's final evo: Water/Fairy
 

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I've been hearing they're
Grass Steel

No way!
Rowlet's final evolution has to be the flying/grass redemption!

And, even they are going to finish ruining my hopes of a perfect (flying) starter. Steel? Not again! Steel type remember me o Empoleon, my worst starter ever. If this became, I'll be taken Litten instead.
 

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My question is: What will the level 70 Pokemon be? a.k.a the Rayquaza/Giratina/Kyurem/Zygarde Pokemon
 

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New Datamined info:
TM01 Work Up (Formerly Hone Claws)
TM28 Leech Life (Formerly Dig)
TM59 New Move (Formerly Incinerate)
TM67 New Move (Formerly Retaliate)
TM70 New Move (Formerly Flash)
TM76 Fly (Formerly Struggle Bug)
TM94 Surf (Formerly Rock Smash)
TM98 Waterfall (Formerly Power-Up Punch)

A total of 29 Z-moves with 11 being Special Z-moves (Pulverizing Pancake and Catastropika)
No Bicycles in Sun and Moon

Ultra Beast PokeBall?
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Some new info:
Move Data

719 total moves

Move info scrubbed, however, other things weren't.

3 of the new Gen VII moves can be taught by TM.

98 new moves in Gen VII, 29 of them being Z-moves.

All 18 types have a Z-move.

There are 11 special Z-moves, like Pulverizing Pancake.

HMs are removed.

There are 100 TMs in total. Most TMs have returned from Gen VI.

Some TMs have had moves replaced. Hone Claws was replaced with Work Up, Dig was replaced with Leech Life, Struggle Bug was replaced with Fly, Rock Smash was replaced with Surf, and Power Up Punch was replaced with Waterfall.

The three new move TMs are unknown, but replace Incinerate, Retaliate, and Flash.

Item Data

920 items in total, 145 items being new to Gen VII.

58 of the new items are related to Z-moves. 29 Z-crystals total, then small and large versions of the same items.

There's an unknown held item that affects a Pokemon in battle, plus an unknown Full Heal based item like the Lava Cookie.

Silvally has its own held items for changing its type, separate from Arceus's plates.

There are some unknown held items with effects.

The Ice Stone used to evolve Alolan Vulpix has a high chance of being in the game.

There are multiple items that are apparently related to Zygarde cells, with a Key Item for changing Zygarde's form. Exact details are vague.

Four bikes and a travel trunk(?) were stubbed from the game.

A new Pokeball exists, presumably used to capture UB Pokemon.

Misc. Data

The leaked Pokedex models are confirmed to be from the Alolan Pokedex.

Groudon's Primal Reversion, Kyogre's Primal Reversion, and Hoopa Unbound still exist in Gen VII.

Strange Souvenir from XY is in Gen VII, its data being unchanged.

No new fossils or new fossil Pokemon.

Evolution tables are scrubbed in the demo.

Save Data

Demo save files are very close to the same data used in the final game.

The save data for the demo is larger than the save data for XY.

Box data is present in the demo, but inaccessible.

Many other data blocks in the demo go unused.

In comparison, the ORAS demo was very small and scrubbed of many unnecessary blocks.

It's apparently very difficult to edit the save data of the demo.
Source: reddit

No way!
Rowlet's final evolution has to be the flying/grass redemption!

And, even they are going to finish ruining my hopes of a perfect (flying) starter. Steel? Not again! Steel type remember me o Empoleon, my worst starter ever. If this became, I'll be taken Litten instead.
Poor Empoleon... he is a cute penguin! :cry:
But, if you think about Flying/Steel you have to think about Skarmory! :uhm:

My question is: What will the level 70 Pokemon be? a.k.a the Rayquaza/Giratina/Kyurem/Zygarde Pokemon
I think that maybe for this generation there won't be a third Pokémon... Marshadow seems more of a Mythical...

New Datamined info:
TM01 Work Up (Formerly Hone Claws)
TM28 Leech Life (Formerly Dig)
TM59 New Move (Formerly Incinerate)
TM67 New Move (Formerly Retaliate)
TM70 New Move (Formerly Flash)
TM76 Fly (Formerly Struggle Bug)
TM94 Surf (Formerly Rock Smash)
TM98 Waterfall (Formerly Power-Up Punch)

A total of 29 Z-moves with 11 being Special Z-moves (Pulverizing Pancake and Catastropika)
No Bicycles in Sun and Moon

Ultra Beast PokeBall?
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Oh! That new ball is really pretty! :argh: I can't wait to catch them all for my Livingdex! roftl
 

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Poor Empoleon... he is a cute penguin! :cry:
But, if you think about Flying/Steel you have to think about Skarmory! :uhm:

Hum, no you got me wrong.

I was mumbling about the possibility of Rowlet's final evolution be Grass/Steel. If it was Flying/Steel, I would be okay with that.
I like Skarmory!
 

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Hum, no you got me wrong.

I was mumbling about the possibility of Rowlet's final evolution be Grass/Steel. If it was Flying/Steel, I would be okay with that.
I like Skarmory!
Well... Grass/Steel isn't bad but I think he will be Grass/Flying :coffee:
(don't worry XD it's only me that like a lot Empoleon XD)
 

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Well... Grass/Steel isn't bad but I think he will be Grass/Flying :coffee:
(don't worry XD it's only me that like a lot Empoleon XD)
Only Grass/Steel at the moment I think is Ferrothorn and he's pretty good, so another one would be pretty good possibly! I originally thought Pikipek would evolve into either a Grass/Flying or Steel/Flying Woodpecker, but Toucan Sam has ruined that idea and seems to only be a Normal/Flying... Empoleon is awesome! I have literally Solo all through Platinum with Empoleon! Only other time I had a successful Solo was in Ruby with Blaziken...
 

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Well... Grass/Steel isn't bad but I think he will be Grass/Flying :coffee:
(don't worry XD it's only me that like a lot Empoleon XD)

I get your point, but, even than Grass/Steel could be better than Grass/Flying in competitive battle, I prefer Grass/Flying because I like flying types.

About Empoleon, I can agree with you about his looking, because he really looks pretty cool! But, he just didn't work with the way I play (which basically consists in don't have any strategy than no attack. xD).
 
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